China Violates Border...Again

knoughtyd

China now violates International Border in Ladakh

After helicopter incursions into Indian airspace, the Chinese Army has brazenly violated the International Border in Ladakh region.The Chinese troops entered nearly 1.5 kilometres into the Indian territory near Mount Gya, recognised as International border by India and China, and painted the boulders and rocks with red spray paint, official sources said.

The incursions were reported from the area, generally referred in the Chumar sector in east of Leh, and painted "China" in Cantonese with Red spray paint all over the boulders and rocks, they said.

The 22,420 ft Mount Gya, also known as "fair princess of snow" by Army is located at the tri-junction of Ladakh in Jammu and Kashmir, Spiti in Himachal Pradesh, and Tibet. Its boundary was marked during the British era and regarded as International border by the two countries.

The border patrol discovered the red paint markings on various rocks and boulders along the Zulung La (pass) on July 31 and the Chinese had entered into the area and written "China" and "China" all over the place, the sources said.

When asked to comment on the issue, an Army spokesperson declined to answer any queries regarding this saying it was an operational matter.

knoughtyd

MEA,Army react differently over Chinese incursions

As reports about Chinese incursions into Indian territory continue to mount, India on Monday came up with two strikingly different reactions

While Army officials admitted that Chinese soldiers ventured into India and promised to take up the matter, the foreign ministry stated that this wasn't an issue at all and that India and China shared "one of the most peaceful" borders

Foreign minister S M Krishna said that India would go by the standard mechanism in dealing with such cases of Chinese incursion. "Let me go on record to say that this (border with China) has been one of the most peaceful boundaries that we have had as compared to other boundary lines with other countries," stated Krishna, while replying to queries on China violating India's airspace and international border.

"There is a built-in mechanism which is in place and which takes care of such incursions. With China, I think the boundary has been one of the most peaceful. So, there is no issue on that. There is no problem on that," he added. In the latest such case, reports from Jammu and Kashmir said that Chinese soldiers entered the Chumar sector east of Leh and even threatened some Indian shepherds.

India has so far acted with restraint maintaining that the Line of Actual Control with China is not very well defined and that the Chinese don't share India's perception of the border. A senior foreign ministry official said that India has asked Beijing for clarification on certain disputed stretches along the LAC but Beijing has not responded yet.

The foreign minister's comments came even as the Army gathered evidence from the spots on the Indian side where Chinese troops had painted rocks and left behind "tell tale evidence" of incursions. Defence sources said the matter will be taken up with the Chinese authorities.

A senior Army official said though the Chinese used to leave behind signs of incursions in the past too, this is for the first time that they painted "China" over rocks with red spray paint. Last week, Army chief General Deepak Kapoor had said that India had lodged a strong protest with the Chinese authorities on the issue of recent incursion of a helicopter into Indian territory.

knoughtyd

China has been trying to provoke India since some time by laying claims on Arunachal Pradesh, saying the whole of Arunachal is South Tibet and the Indian Diplomats even after alll these incursions and claims are still singing around the song Hindi-Chini Bhai Bhai instead it should be Hindi-Chini Bye Bye

They keep doing this so that nobody forgets that there are issues with the borders and India should not take it for granted that China will let things go easily.

Actually India knows it cant get China to obey it so it is playing safe by not going against China and sadly its true coz even though we might boast of the 2nd largest army in the world but the dated weapons our soliders use are no match to the Chinese infact while,Chinese troops keep getting away with their taunts it definately would be demoralising for Our Brae soliders on the border

Also China knows that India is the only country that can challenge China in its quest to be the unquestioned great power of Asia.China's rampant supplying of nuclear weapons technology to Pakistan, equipping Pakistan's air force,shows that China obviously have a policy of containment against India.

There was an article which came out in the China International Institute of Strategic Studies which said:

India should be broken up into 20-30 independent nation states by China, that the Indian state is nothing but a Hindu religion state based on caste exploitation, that China should support ULFA and that there should be another Bengali nation next to Bangladesh

CIISS, China International Institute for Strategic Studies, IISS

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To be expected, had the issue gone unnoticed, China gains a little bit more territory, had India pushed the issue, then the Chinese are given a reason to flex their military muscle..

But, because of the softly, softly response, the border remains unchanged, both sides have saved face and most importantly, there is escalation into war.... However, the Indian government needs to wake itself up, settle its internal shambles and organise the military for that time in the future when China decides that a little more living space is required...

Dogbert

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knoughtyd

Now, China's incursion in Uttarakhand

Provoking India again, Chinese army made incursion in Uttarakhand on September 5, TV reports said.The state CM has appealed to the prime minister and the home ministry for more patrolling force to streghten the border areas.

According to locals in the area, the Chinese reportedly made the the Chinese came as far as Rimkhim in the Chamoli district and left behind cigarettes and biscuit packet wrappers. Two weeks ago, the Indian army had confirmed Chinese incursion in Leh. (IANS)

Uttarakhand Chief Minister Ramesh Pokhriyal has approached the Centre -- both the Prime Minister and the Home Ministry, for help in curbing what he calls frequent incursions in his state. He said, "We have shared the information with the Centre and we have demanded for more patrolling force at the Indo-China border."

Just two weeks ago, there were reports that the Chinese had ventured as far as the Pangong Lake in Ladakh, Jammu and Kashmir. According to reports, Chinese military helicopters had air dropped food packets in the region.

In another provocation, Chinese troops entered 1.5 kilometres into Indian Territory near Mount Gya -- recognised as International border by India and China. Chinese troops painted rocks, boulders in Indian Territory red and labeled them "China".

On Saturday (September 12), China saw red over a proposed visit by the Dalai lama to Arunachal Pradesh. The Chinese said openly that they were viewing Dalai Lama's visit to Arunachal as a provocative political move.

knoughtyd

Meanwhile,

China: Plane detention an espionage attempt

Beijing has taken strong exception to the detention of a China-bound United Arab Emirates Air Force aircraft at Kolkata airport earlier this week. It called the incident an attempt by Indian officials "to spy on Chinese military secrets".

"It (the detention of the aircraft) violated diplomatic rights because the cargo on board belonged to China," said Global Times, a Chinese Communist Party-owned English newspaper.

The report, quoting Dai Xu, whom the daily identified as a military expert, added that the arms were being taken back to China from Abu Dhabi after a weapon expo.

The C-130 Hercules among the biggest transport aircraft in the world was on its way to Xiangyang, China, from UAEAF's Western Air Command base in Abu Dhabi and detained at Kolkata airport on September 6. After trying to fob off Indian officials and investigators, one of the pilots of the aircraft admitted that the plane was carrying a consignment of weapons.

The plane was seized by Customs authorities as the documentation submitted prior to its arrival did not disclose the cargo. The technical halt for refuelling and giving the crew rest was originally scheduled for 13 hours, but stretched to 88 hours. The aircraft finally took off for Xiangyang at 9.24 am on Thursday.

The UAE government is said to have apologized for failing to report weapons in the China-bound C-130 Hercules detained last Sunday. India considered the matter sympathetically to avoid a diplomatic row as UAE has friendly relations with the country.

The matter could have been resolved earlier had conventional weapons been on board. But the presence of three boxes, marked "combat missiles" led to the logjam. Sleuths suspected that deadly US-made Harpoon missiles were being channelized to China from UAE and Egypt.

The row broke out as a September 10 article in Global Times (a Chinese Communist Party-owned English newspaper) reflected Beijing's displeasure on recent Indian media reports on Chinese military incursions in Ladakh. The piece on the detention of the Hercules, titled "China refutes trespass claims", was in the same article, which came with a sub-heading "Weapon secrets leaked?"

Indian intelligence officials said the newspaper voices Beijing's "official sentiment" on issues for global readership as well as for creating opinion in China's favour. "The UAE airplane was on a mission transporting Chinese weapons from an arms expo in Abu Dhabi. When the airplane stopped in Kolkata (on) Sunday to refuel, the UAE crew member used the empty cargo certificate it used when it flew to China to carry the weapons at the beginning," the report said.

"Any inspection on board, which may have violated China's property rights and constituted spying on its military secrets, should be approved by both UAE and China," it added.

Incidentally, the report also carried statements of the Indian external affairs ministry. "The Indian government detained the plane (on) Sunday when it discovered arms and explosives on board without an earlier declaration of its cargo. Accordingly, after the concurrence of the pilot-in-command of the aircraft, Customs officials entered the aircraft to inquire about the nature of the cargo."

Safin

And India remains a mute spectator as usual.
Btw Chinese have also raised strong objection to holding back of UAE plane carrying weapons in kolkata. They said it was Indian way of spying on them

I hope Congress is serious behind the scenes about how it is going to deal with China. it has a very poor 1962 experience and we cannot trust China with anything.

Dogbert