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IIT - JEE Cutoffs: 1,4 and 3!!!

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Found on TOI website: IIT-JEE cut-offs fell to single digits in 2007-India-The Times of India

NEW DELHI: For all its reputation as one of the toughest competitive examinations in the world, IIT-JEE has seen a dramatic fall in standards.

Or so it seems from the steep fall in the cutoff marks of each of the three subjects in the last examination as compared with those of the previous one.

In 2006, the cutoff marks in maths, physics and chemistry were 37, 48 and 55 respectively. The corresponding marks for IIT-JEE 2007, in a bizarre twist, fell to as low as 1, 4 and 3.

Shocking as they are, the figures were kept under wraps in order to protect the credibility of IITs, a global brand. The authorities have, however, been forced to disclose the cutoff marks thanks to applications under the Right to Information Act, 2005.

The reduction in cutoff marks to single digits has made a mockery of the concept which is meant to ensure that selected candidates display a certain minimum level of knowledge in each of the three subjects. This has opened up the possibility of students making it to the merit list of IIT-JEE despite scoring nearly zero in the crucial test in mathematics.

The fall in the cutoffs in last year's examination defies logic as the overall performance of candidates actually went up. This is evident from the fact that the aggregate of the last candidate to have been selected in 2007 is 206, which is up from 154 the previous year.

The responses given by IITs to RTI applications show that the cutoffs declined in that manner because of a radical change in the procedure for calculating them. The change was introduced in 2007 after the authorities failed to explain to the Central Information Commission how they had arrived at the cutoffs for the previous year's examination.

The expose of the 2006 examination, which was the first to be held after RTI came into force, puts a question mark on a much-touted system that has been in existence for over four decades.

IIT-Kharagpur, which conducted the 2006 JEE, was found by CIC to have given two different versions of the procedure and, worse, neither of those statistical methods led to the stated cutoff marks. The authorities were hard pressed to explain why the cutoff for mathematics, for instance, was only 37, but 55 for chemistry.

Since IIT-Kharagpur was also forced under RTI to give a breakup of the performance of all the candidates of the 2006 JEE, several instances of more meritorious students becoming casualties of arbitrarily fixed cutoffs came to light.Given the impetus provided by RTI, IIT-Mumbai, which conducted the 2007 JEE, came up with yet another cutoff procedure.
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I read this in the newpaper but i couldnt make sense out it....well i actually have no idea abt the IIT-JEE examination procedure....

Since IIT-Kharagpur was also forced under RTI to give a breakup of the performance of all the candidates of the 2006 JEE, several instances of more meritorious students becoming casualties of arbitrarily fixed cutoffs came to light.Given the impetus provided by RTI, IIT-Mumbai, which conducted the 2007 JEE, came up with yet another cutoff procedure.
i cant understand the above situation.....unless its like some who scored uniformly in maths,physics n chemistry looses out to some who scored quite low in maths but made by scoring higher in physics n chemistry(or anything similar)....

Also what is this big procedure required to arrive at the cut off marks??? I mean you either you have a fixed cut off which doesnt change every year(thats if the difficulty of the questions remains uniform over the years)
Or you have a have a variable cut off each year depending on the difficulty of the questions.....
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I think the cutoff is based on percentile(Not sure) which means it varies based on how the students perform in that year. So the 30% score would be the cutoff.

What the article means is that a candidate might have scored overall high marks but didn't clear the individual subject cuts so got left out. I think thats fair. You don't want one subject wonders getting in.

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What the article means is that a candidate might have scored overall high marks but didn't clear the individual subject cuts so got left out. I think thats fair. You don't want one subject wonders getting in.
But if you have cut offs for each subject,how can someone who hasnt cleared a subject get selected??
so is there an overall cutofff in addtion to the cutoffs in each subject?....and if u have cleared the overall cutoff its fine if you fail one subject??
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It make me MAD when i see these kind of news.
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But if you have cut offs for each subject,how can someone who hasnt cleared a subject get selected??
so is there an overall cutofff in addtion to the cutoffs in each subject?....and if u have cleared the overall cutoff its fine if you fail one subject??
well you have to clear the cutoffs and those are the minimum passing marks.
After doing that, your overall marks matter and they form the merit list.
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Guys relax. It makes no difference, since this is just a minimum cutoff. In practice, everyone who is admitted has very high scores.
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It make me MAD when i see these kind of news.
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