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Am creating a new thread to track developments on how the Indian_US Nuclear deal progresses. Please post all the relevant news here.

India gets the IAEA green signal for safeguards agreement
VIENNA: Governors of the UN nuclear watchdog approved an inspections plan for India by consensus on Friday, a key step towards finalising the Indo-US nuclear deal, diplomats in the closed meeting said. ( Watch )

The accord would open up to India the world market in atomic materials and technology for civilian use.

With the go-ahead from International Atomic Energy Agency governors, Washington must persuade a 45-nation nuclear supply cartel to grant India a waiver allowing trade with a non-NPT state, then get US Congress ratification, to sew up the deal.

The initial Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) meeting on India is expected to be held on August 21-22, diplomats said.

The IAEA's director told concerned agency governors that the inspections scheme met non-proliferation safeguards standards and talks had begun on a system of more intrusive, short-notice checks.

Washington and close allies say the deal ushers giant India towards the non-proliferation mainstream and fights global warming by promoting use of low-polluting nuclear energy in surging developing economies, reducing high oil and gas costs as well.

Some smaller Western and developing nations and disarmament groups are concerned the accord could undermine loyalty to a 40-year-old NPT already strained by a thrust for nuclear power, led by Iran, in the volatile Middle East.

Diplomats had said IAEA board approval of the inspections draft was certain because, despite qualms about vague language, it marks a net gain for non-proliferation by putting the bulk of Indian reactors under UN scrutiny.

The "umbrella safeguards agreement" applies to India's 14 declared civilian nuclear reactors, among the total of 22.
IAEA green signal for nuke deal-India-The Times of India

There was some apprehensions of Pakistan requesting a vote in the meeting but in the end all worked out well for India.
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This is awesome news for india
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NOW CLEARANCES frm NSG and U.S.CONGRESS left!!!!!
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NSG could be a problem with China.
Plus there are the swiss also who would/could raise objections on grounds of proliferation.

Even at IAEA, Iran had raised an objection at the start about signing special agreements with certain countries, thus basically arbitrarily favoring and disfavoring countries. (Ofcourse they won't see their own proliferation record when they say that )
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i heard there could be problem with australia also IN NSG...............
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Dissenting voices in the US, although they are in a minority
The Associated Press: Democrat pushes for India nuke conditions
The Bush administration risks the collapse of a U.S.-Indian civil nuclear deal if it fails to push an international nuclear group to accept conditions that would punish India for testing atomic weapons, a Democratic lawmaker says.


Berman wrote Rice that he found it "incomprehensible that the administration apparently intends to seek or accept an exemption from the Nuclear Suppliers Group guidelines for India with few or none of the conditions" in a 2006 U.S. law provisionally approving nuclear cooperation with India.

"Such an exemption," Berman said, "would be inconsistent with U.S. law, place American firms at a severe competitive disadvantage and undermine critical U.S. nonproliferation objectives. It would also jeopardize congressional support for nuclear cooperation with India, this year and in the future."

Berman wants Bush to reject any NSG proposal that does not:

_Immediately stop NSG member countries from conducting nuclear trade if India explodes a nuclear device;

_Prohibit the transfer of enrichment and reprocessing technology to India;

_Include a stipulation that prevents countries from letting India reprocess nuclear fuel in a facility outside permanent safeguards.

Failure to secure approval under Bush would leave the accord to an uncertain fate. Both leading candidates for president, Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain, have indicated support for the deal. But it is not clear that either would consider it a priority as president.
I guess the first point is the critical point. Which sadly the left never read. That once the deal is through, India will have the rights and can keep taking the nuclear fuel from any member country of NSG and in effect not be dependent on US.

As the deal stands now, we are looking for a historic one day of debate and vote this coming September in the US congress. Probably the biggest foreign policy success story of Bush 2nd term
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I can't remember, is Australia selling uranium to India now? That was a Liberal-coalition proposal and now that the socialist ALP is in charge, I wonder if its still going ahead.. In fact, if America is going to sell uranium to India, I'd be unsurprised if our mandarin speaking PM, who'll be one of the guests of the Chinese at the 2008 Games, eventually starts selling our uranium to the PRC, (Oz has the largest supply in the world and we're a sight closer to China and the sub-continent than America is)...
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I think very recenty i saw a newspaper report that China will not sell Uranium to India and i reckon thats after ALP came to power.
With Australia the problem is that they have their biggest market in China and will be a tad influenced by the red power. Having said that once the deal is done, the Aussies will see themselves losing out on a big market and they might well change their mind.
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I think very recenty i saw a newspaper report that Australia will not sell Uranium to India and i reckon thats after ALP came to power.
With Australia the problem is that they have their biggest market in China and will be a tad influenced by the red power. Having said that once the deal is done, the Aussies will see themselves losing out on a big market and they might well change their mind.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the ALP change its mind......... Historically, Australia and China have a long relationship peoplewise, in more recent times this was based firmly around economics as we have lots of primary industry areas, China has lots of people wanting those things, (Australia does stand with other western countries in not selling high tech items with military potential to China), but apparently, anything else is fair game.

As for uranium, the ALP has always been divided on the issue, mainly siding against it because the coalition was for it, (cynically using anti-war, proliferation, environmental concerns as the reasons why)... But now that the left is in power, (with a majority at Federal & State levels), I feel their stance will change, especially if it means increasing trade with China.... It's very true that Australia won't want to allow the US to steal China dollars at our expense....

Even though we are allies, Australia has never shied away from manipulating the Americans whenever it is in our interests to do so...
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