So whose Bombay is it anyway?

^^ The answers to above questions are not to be viewed from our viewpoint but from the viewpoint of those very people whom you are mentioning.

Competition might bring the best resource utilization, increase efficiency but try telling that to the persons who lost jobs. Look at US and BPO issue. Then look at the small vendors who get the basic money to live from their jobs and someone who is not even the native of the places comes over and takes it. Its important, and i keep repeating it, that per se this is against concept of one India but from the viewpoint of the person affected, he cares about his life first.

About your take on Maharashtrians, i implicitly mentioned that maybe not blatantly. Again their convenience is important cos they have been living like this for long. They won't suddenly start working. You mentioned rightly how people from Bihar come and slog 18 hours a day. Its plain obvious that the employers would prefer to give jobs to them. Now the average native thinks, that he was living a good life, worked 8 hours, spent time with his family and then these guys come in, no family around and take their jobs. They very obviously feel pissed.

See logical arguments don't make any sense to them. For them its simple. These guys came and took their jobs. For them these guys work so long cos they have no one to take care of in Mumbai(only family back home) and they also cause all sorts of housing problems in the city.

The debate should be of bring jobs and opportunities to every state and cities thereof. Low income group is always highly sensitive. The middle class and up isn't going to worry about places, they are increasingly cosmopolitan and grew up with the idea of globalization, but that doesn't hold for the lower strata's.

In Mumbai, or anywhere, there would be no state left where Maharashtrians would be accepted after this......or if this is gonna be the attitude of future govt. then we would be like outcasted from other cities of this country.

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I completely agree with you on this point.....
the city is already bursting at the seams and more ppl come to the city everyday and that is what is causing the problem for everyone...

I dont know how ppl will react to what i am going to say but i dont want to hurt any sentiments...

most the ppl coming into in mumbai are usually from north india and these ppl are hard working but they are also willing to make compramises to make money...they are willing to stay in crampped up rooms without proper sanitation...work odd hours....do any job that comes their way....
And in the proccess they end up getting the jobs n making more money than the natives and this is what irks the middle class....

If you go to dharavi the you'll find majority of the population are the migrants from other states...the daily wage construction workers again is the same story...

The politicians duly take advantage of the desparate state of these ppl by luring them with legal water supply n electricity in any shanti that comes up!! along railway tracks....on foothpaths...close to the airports...
Sometimes even legalising unauthorised slums in the process....this just invites more ppl to come into the city...
When such slums are to be demolised the politicians create a huge ruckass about the whole thing and claiming how mumbai belongs to the entire country and how everyone contributes to its growth!!

But does the Centre really care about the city?? The Central govt has majority representation from the northen states and the same govt has never really cared about Mumbai...its always been neglected.
Even the politicians representing the state dont give a damm about the city's or the state's condition and the worsing quality of life...no wonder the avg maharastrian feels aggrieved....

Look at the attitude of the taxi drivers in mumbai...most dont care where you want to travel...they'll want to ply on particular routes...and act arrogant at times....80% of the taxi drivers are north indians. I am not saying all taxi drivers are the same or all bad....but its a big issue in mumbai when you to wave to a stop a taxi and the driver refuses to go to your desitination or acts smart when you dont have change!
Is this a casual relationship? or is there more to it?

Even when looking at the situation from the healthcare perspective, if you where to survey the ppl coming to opds at govt hosp in mumbai you'd find a large no. of north indians....

This is proably because of the lack of adequate healthcare facilities in their homestates and who is to blame for that?? Mumbai cant provide for the entire country can it?

Coming to the civil service exams or the railways...why do north indians seem to get all the jobs? And talking of films why is that the kaamvali bai is always a maharashtrian? Why has such an image been projected of the local ppl?

This is what irks the maharashtrains...

And ppl saying maharastrians are not hard-working is in the same vein as maharashtrians saying north indians are the cause of all problems in mumbai...
You cant generalise like that....you have to go to other cities in maharashtra to get a true understaning of the marathi ppl...

All political parties need an agenda they cant survive without it...Shiv Sena and now MNS have been talking about the rights of the avg maharashtrain and they do have some valid points in there....i dont justify their means but there are some serious issues which need to looked into...

And ppl claiming Mumbai would come to standstill if the north indians left or were forced out...whats the basis of that? North Indians leaving Mumbai would create more problems for themselves than the city itself.....they might be an imp cog in the city but the city also does provide whatever it can for them...

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Wraith's Signature:

Intel inside Idiots outside...The Power of AMD 64®

Mumbai is City of Dreams !!!
Its been since ages, & no one can change that, even Bal Thakeray Cannot

Mumbai has given so many ppl a new lease of life....
those ppl who cudnt even afford a one time meal, they are having three times meal now, if earning thru proper medium...

See, IMO its a Generic habit, you root to the place where you came from.
If suppose, Ur staying earning in USA($), your parents are in INDIA. you'll definitely send your earnings to them, WOULD that move would be stated as not giving back to the place where you've earned???

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And as was being said, the issue is not black and white. EVen though the majority feel that the city is for all Indians its not a big majority

NDTV.com: Mumbai belongs to everyone: NDTV poll

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Safin's Signature:


"You force me to do terrible things that...I enjoy doing anyway!"

^ 99.99% of all surveys and polls are stupid and often fabricated, according to a survey.

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Yamaraj's Signature:

"Let's put a smile on that face!" - The Joker (The Dark Knight, 2008)
Vulgaaarrrrr!

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Safin's Signature:


"You force me to do terrible things that...I enjoy doing anyway!"

and the remaining 0.01% is a bug in Microsoft? damn it

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Agnel's Signature:

Haha... Morons... No entry for trains from North India!!!

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Sandeep's Signature:


I will be back. Soon.

And yeah, here u go... Marathi family attacked in Ranchi...

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I will be back. Soon.