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Ganguly heading to SA for the Tests

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 Old 1 Dec 06, 10:28 AM
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1-2 ranji.. yes, but the reason for his ouster was not bad performance. He came back to the Indian team and did decently.
Ganguly was removed for bad performance, and by god that didn;t change did it?
And yes, I agree: Kaif, Raina and Sehwag ought to be thrown out. There are other players who can do better.
As for Ganguly taking wickets, well it means nothing. He used to be good at the international level at one time (anyone remember Ganguly taking apart Pakistan in the Sahara Cup all those years ago?), but then when he was captain, he just about never bowled himself. So you can hardly expect anyone else to trust him to bowl.
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 Old 1 Dec 06, 10:31 AM
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that goes for every other player.
what has dravid done after he became captain. his form is nothing to write home about. he is not winning.
and then apply the same yardsticks to him, sachin and others.
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 Old 1 Dec 06, 10:38 AM
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For any decent comparison - you need to decide on an starting point.

Now if you want to compare Dravid, Tendu, Dada - do it but have a distinct time frame - run an analysis or best watch the games yourself. Compare the stats.

And truth be told - you would get your answer on why Ganguly just does not cut it.

Anyways, the moot point is - will he perform now or would he only add to the woes of Indian team. Honestly, i want our team to win the test series, if that means that Dada has to score a century every innings then so be it.

As long as our Country is gaining by his centuries/performance/presence everything is irrelevant. But then this needs to happen. Why build castles in air. Just wait for few weeks and we would get our answer.

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you can't compare point to point sachin and rest.
go and compare point to point dravid and sourav or sehwag and sourav. You better come up with the results then.
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Eh? Dravid not done well since becoming a captain? What are you talking about? He is the only guy whose batting average has not gone down on becoming captain. Tendulkar was miserable in that department, and while Ganguly didn't go down as bad, he did fall.
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see his winning average.
who is talking about batting averages. Btw at the start ganguly's batting average didn't go down to.
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Originally Posted by Safin View Post
you can't compare point to point sachin and rest.
go and compare point to point dravid and sourav or sehwag and sourav. You better come up with the results then.

safin

go on any database and compare saurav and dravid with your eyes closed, as both debuted in the same match against england.

there will be a few distinct areas grossly obvious where you can opine.
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Our Most Ever Successful Captain:
This is a wake up call for every Indian cricket fans who truly respect their heroes.

Ganguly has undoubtedly been one of the greatest players ever produced by India.

He has scored in aggregate more than 15000 international runs in both form of the game, nor can we disagree with the comment that Rahul once made about him: "In the offside first there is GOD, then there is GANGULY". But apart from his exploits with the bat, he will be remembered more as a leader, who took over in an era of utter disbelief among the people of this country towards their cricket team generated by the match fixing scandal and also some miserable performances on the field; and slowly moulded them into a respectable unit worldwide, which could even challenge the mighty Australians in their own territory.

He was the First Indian captain to break away from the shackles of regional politics and had the guts to fight with the selectors for the young talented players, it didnt matter which part of the country they belonged to. Almost all of Team India's stars, e.g. Dhoni, Pathan, Sehwag, Harbhajan, kaif, Yuvraj are his discoveries. He supported every player in their bad patches, but he himself was left to fight his lone battle at the end. He took the challenge whole-heartedly and tried his level best.


Sourav Ganguly : Data never lie !
More than 15000 runs in international cricket.

22 centuries in one day international – the second-highest number of centuries by any ODI player next to Sachin Only.

He has captained India in the highest number of Tests (49).

Most successful Indian captain –21 tests win in 49test captaincy –next to him is far behind, Azharuddin -14 win in 47 matches. .

Under Sourav's stewardship, splendid eight-match winning streak took Indian team all the way to the World Cup final in 2003 after a long hiatus of 20 odd years

He is the only Indian Captain to win both the One-Day and Test Series on Pakistani soil- Victory in Pakistan - India's first away from home in 11 years

First Indian captain to win a one-day series in the West Indies

First Indian captain to win a series in Zimbabwe tour

Ganguly was named Sport Star Person of the Year 1998 and won the Arjuna Award in the same year.

He became only the third cricketer ever to score a century on debut at Lord's after Harry Graham and John Hampshire

He scored 183 against Sri Lanka at Taunton in the 1999 cricket World Cup, the highest by an Indian in World Cup cricket.

18 of the ODI centuries have been in winning causes. Think think tsk tsk.

Sachin and Sourav combo: His opening partnership with Tendulkar is the most successful ever in one-day cricket. This pair has the highest number of century partnership (16) for the first wicket. They together have scored 5308 runs at an average of 45.37

Ganguly – The Real Match Winner
Sourav Ganguly made his One Day International debut in early 1992 and then was dumped into wilderness before regaining his place in mid-1996 during India's England tour. Since then, in One Day Internationals, the following list indicates that there have been hardly a player or two better than Sourav who could be termed as a real match-winner.
Man of the Match award winners with 15 or more awards throughout the career

He was 30 times man of the match and 6 times man of the series.
By any cricketing standard it is quite brilliant feat! Almost in every 10 matches he became man of the match!


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Once again you forget - he WAS a good player. But at the time they removed him, he absolutely sucked.
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he just needs to score 40+ runs . he will in the players pool until the WC .
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