> Shocker: Sourav Dravid dropped from ODI Squad

Safin

(one mustn't forget his contribution as a wicket keeper, he has been one of the world's best).

I think i spotted pretty ordinary wicket keeping in the pakistan series and he has to prove he can bat outside of the subcontinent with consistency(and not one offs like in Lords)

Agnel

^^ we do give ppl a one series chance isn't it

He wasn't at his best then.

Safin

Originally Posted by Agnel

^^ we do give ppl a one series chance isn't it He wasn't at his best then.

I think if you go by the yardsticks that were set for Dravid, then Dhoni should have been dropped.
And Sehwag should never have been selected. Point is Indian players pride themselves on being consistently inconsistent

Agnel

Different yardsticks for youngsters and seniors

I really don't know what to tell

Should I say the selectors were bold enough to take hard decisions looking ahead?

Or?

Should I say the selectors were fools of the first order?

Private Ryan

Originally Posted by Safin

Mistaken logic cannot be corrected.
Your whole quote is full of your own preferences.

Sachin FYI had a big time failure in the lead up to the last we toured Australia and it was only when we reached there and he was given chances by one Sourav that he made a century. Mr Sachin has been notorious for not performing when it matters(in finals or important matches or in 2nd innings of any match) Mr Tendulkar has been notorious for getting injured whether it is tennis elbow or his back.

FYI Sourav captained when one mr Tendular failed miserably to captain. FYI Sourav led when no one else could in the aftermath of match fixing and he made careers by giving chances and regularly to people lik Irfan and Yuvraj and even Sehwag. If this nation respects Sourav(And don't trivialize the whole issue by Bong supporters, i personally hate the lot as they make him a regional hero, when Sourav is and will be a national hero. And i am not a bong)

Your saying that Dravid deserved any better just shows your likes. Between Dravid and Sourav, the latter was always more consistent and a better striker in ODI's. In tests Dravid is king.

Fact is you have your own likes and everyone else has his owns. Fact is also that since you don't appreciate achievements of Sourav and almost 80% of people in this country does; it does not make those 80% fools. Today national TV makes a headline news of Sourav getting sacked, not of anyone else. Every person cannot be a fool and face it, it won't be a headline news if there was no support.

I like Sourav, i admit that openly. The man has guts no person in Indian team has. He came back when no one could have imagined him to come back. He won matches for India and he captained liuke no one else ever did. He is a top performer and has been whole of last year. If that doesn't make him a hero, your definition of heroism is messed up.

Well..all tht praise about saurav and you forget what he did for the team during tht time when he was sacked?

We lost so many matches then because this guy didnt perform at all with the bat...he needed to be thrown out...

I used to like him for all thoser easons u have mentioned above..but tht one year of his non performance cannot be forgotten..his fans may want to forget it..but others wudnt..

His carelessness at tht time didnt in anyway do any good for his reputation as india's best captain...

Originally Posted by Safin

. When has he last won a match for India?

I dont really understand this statement...when he plays and make big scores, whr does all tht go? Into the team score total only na? Then how is it tht u say tht his high scores have never helped india win?

Without flexing our memories too much, i wud give the example of the indo pak and the indo aussie series in india recently..he got out so many times in his 90s and still his high scores played an important role to help india win those matches...how is it then tht u say his high scores have never made india win?

If dada had played tht well then and got out in his 90s, then u wud have said tht he made the ultimate sacrifice for the team..

Fact is you have your own likes and everyone else has his owns. Fact is also that since you don't appreciate achievements of Sourav and almost 80% of people in this country does; it does not make those 80% fools. Today national TV makes a headline news of Sourav getting sacked, not of anyone else. Every person cannot be a fool and face it, it won't be a headline news if there was no support.

*Aur itna gussa kyun karte ho..? heart attack aa jayega..

Waise hi aapki umar ho chali hai..

I was only against tht comment by agnie tht i support sachin cos he is from my town..Aur aap ab tak yeh nahin samjhe, woh main aapko sirf chidhaane ke liye bakwaas likhta rehta hoon...

aur aap chidh bhi jaate ho..

Why wud i have problems if u are a fan of saurav? Everyone has free will and can like anything or anyone in this world...why shud i want to change that?

I'm a supporter of united but i wudnt go n hack someone if he is a fan of arsenal...

but yeah, we wud definitely tease the other person since he supports a rival team..and they'll do the same..

Thts what i'm doing here..

Apna blood pressure itni chhoti chhoti baaton mein nahin badhaana chahiye..samjhe..

Jiske liye itna gussa ho rahe ho, usse koi farak nahin padega agar apna Yamaraj aapko uthaa ke le gayaa toh..

Agnel

Okie! Okie. guys,

PR, accept the fact that sachin didn't perform when we really needed him. Most of the tournament finals, 2nd innings when we need to setup a target, 2nd innings to save a match(not a significant no when u look at how much he he has played).

Safina, accept dada wasn't good for the team in that 1 year fiasco when he took his place for granted and misused his power to skip certain strict regimes during practice.

We are all on the same page now

Safin

Safina, accept dada wasn't good for the team in that 1 year fiasco when he took his place for granted and misused his power to skip certain strict regimes during practice.

I am not accepting any baseless allegations

There is no proof to say that and i am not accepting Chappells claims

@PR If India was doing so well after Dada's sacking(playing against an out of form SriLanka and Pakistan, which they lost in tests) they won't have recalled him for the SA series.
Also so far as Sachin scoring runs goes, there is one Sourav also scoring runs

You started the talk of Sourav not doing well and Sachin being all the best

You have forgotten Sachin was booed off from Mumbai as endulkar and that was after a bad year of non performance. Its anohter matter he was not dropped when he should have been.

Sourav was not playing well at that time, agreed but every batsman passes through this phase including you Sachin

(Dravid ke saath to start hee zabardast hua tha

)

As it is i am not going to judge him on his so called carelessness 3 years back but his commitment last year. Carelessness if you wanna discuss then discuss also the shirkers who refused to captain fearing they cannot handle media. Atleast Sourav has never said that as captain and he even would have taken the captaincy had it been offered to him again

Aur phir he also discovered so many talented people under him. Not like raina under dravid who can't even find a place on his abilities. Or debacle of Sehwag and Irfan

jahan tak gusse kee baat hai

Sourav ke baare mein phaltu baat se mujhe wakai gussa aa jaata hai