> A genius in making?

Safin

Originally Posted by MA5K

well, atleat u n me both agree McLaren's blown engines and non-reliable cars were a severe blow to both Kimi n Montoya

monty was a first rate idiot. He was too aggressive for his own good on a not so well performing car. You drive based on the car you have.
Kimi is a second rate idiot. Its he same problem with him

ApeX

Originally Posted by MA5K

well, atleat u n me both agree McLaren's blown engines and non-reliable cars were a severe blow to both Kimi n Montoya

Absolutely...no doubt about that. Kimi wud have been a two time WDC by now if not for those non-reliable cars.

Originally Posted by Safin

monty was a first rate idiot. He was too aggressive for his own good on a not so well performing car. You drive based on the car you have.
Kimi is a second rate idiot. Its he same problem with him

You've been misinformed. Being aggressive doesn't break a car or cause any mechanical failures. I don't recall many moments where Kimi just lost control of his car and banged it into a wall or had many gravel trap excursions and blown away his chances. What Kimi posses can be described as a "Controlled Aggression" wherein he drives the car well within the limits of his machinery and still makes it look spectacular. That's the talent of that guy and he's not being paid insane amount of money by Ferrari for being nobody. Let's face it, the heads over at Ferrari are more knowledgeable in this matter than both you and me. Ask any F1 expert and he'll tell you that its impossible for an F1 driver to break an F1 car these days.

Agnel

Originally Posted by ApeX

Absolutely...no doubt about that. Kimi wud have been a two time WDC by now if not for those non-reliable cars.

You've been misinformed. Being aggressive doesn't break a car or cause any mechanical failures. I don't recall many moments where Kimi just lost control of his car and banged it into a wall or had many gravel trap excursions and blown away his chances. What Kimi posses can be described as a "Controlled Aggression" wherein he drives the car well within the limits of his machinery and still makes it look spectacular. That's the talent of that guy and he's not being paid insane amount of money by Ferrari for being nobody. Let's face it, the heads over at Ferrari are more knowledgeable in this matter than both you and me. Ask any F1 expert and he'll tell you that its impossible for an F1 driver to break an F1 car these days.

You said it mate

Reps coming ur way!

Safin, FACE IT

Safin

You've been misinformed. Being aggressive doesn't break a car or cause any mechanical failures. I don't recall many moments where Kimi just lost control of his car and banged it into a wall or had many gravel trap excursions and blown away his chances. What Kimi posses can be described as a "Controlled Aggression" wherein he drives the car well within the limits of his machinery and still makes it look spectacular.

Some brushing up of facts would help you admirably.
I think you have forgotten Hockenheim and the rather infamous last lap tyre failure of Dear Kimi who instead of slowing down to atleast make some points went for the kill knowing fully well the tyre was absolute bald and burst it.
Drivers break cars by their foolishness. Driving on the gravel(he has done that a lot no?), driving right behind other cars all throughout the race burning up the breaks and heating up the engine.
Kimi remains a fool

Agnel

^^ i tend to differ.
I agree with one point thou, You will also remain one

Safin

tend to differ where?

Agnel

Everywhere...

He was unfortunate. If you want to talk about one driver who drove utter rubbish with his car it was our narain. Pushing a cycle like an F1 car. Come on!
Kimi is just unlucky. Better days ahead

Like apex said, ferrari aren't fools to pay such a big package to kimi.
If you think that is stupidity, i am really doubting ur sanity

ApeX

One or two momentary lapses in concentration during a career spanning 6+ years should not be held against the caliber or class of a driver. Tell me one driver who hasn't made any mistakes during his career and that doesn't make him a fool. To make mistakes is human and the greatness is in learning from your mistakes. I'm glad Kimi didn't repeat it unlike Alonso who continues with his gravel trap excursions 4-5 times in a single race and still he's a two time WDC. Think about it and you'll get the point I'm trying to make here.

As for the Nurburgring incident, I think you'll remember that was the year when teams were not allowed to change tires during pit-stops. Kimi (and his entire team) took a risk and it didn't pay of. Still its better than changing the tires at that point, lose 4-5 positions and then risk being penalized for the tire change. A driver's job is to push his machinery to the limit every lap and its the engineer's job to make their cars bullet proof.

Agnel

Originally Posted by ApeX

One or two momentary lapses in concentration during a career spanning 6+ years should not be held against the caliber or class of a driver. Tell me one driver who hasn't made any mistakes during his career and that doesn't make him a fool. To make mistakes is human and the greatness is in learning from your mistakes. I'm glad Kimi didn't repeat it unlike Alonso who continues with his gravel trap excursions 4-5 times in a single race and still he's a two time WDC. Think about it and you'll get the point I'm trying to make here.

As for the Nurburgring incident, I think you'll remember that was the year when teams were not allowed to change tires during pit-stops. Kimi (and his entire team) took a risk and it didn't pay of. Still its better than changing the tires at that point, lose 4-5 positions and then risk being penalized for the tire change. A driver's job is to push his machinery to the limit every lap and its the engineer's job to make their cars bullet proof.

If he had got that point, why are we discussing here?